In cell block B just above the outside entrance, a sign reads "cell block K Z." 1. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). Exterior This was changed in the December 14, 2010 update. If you talk to the guy at the door he should let you in for a hundred caps or something with a disquise. How do I do that? There is only one person known by the name of Joe Cobb in association with the word "gang", and that is Joe Frank Cobb (a.k.a. Still, the bug you're talking about does exist. If you join them it is either an early grave, or hatred by everyone (bye bye Vegas!) Completed the rest of the quest by wiping out, Completed the rest of the quest by wiping out Cottonwood Cove's Legion forces by dropping radioactive waste on the area (+12) (Wiping out all of the Legion forces manually, followed by dropping the radioactive waste, will not reward additional reputation. Unless this was patched in, then no. Similarly, above the door of cell block A, a sign reads "cell block A J. No idea if that was really intended, but it feels like a bug. In cell block B, the Courier can find Carter, a small-time trader, who has set up shop in the cell block. To not get vilified, do not kill every powderganger you encounter. The one exception is the Brotherhood of Steel: Only Mister Sandman works, as even silenced weapons and C-4 will cause the Brotherhood to turn hostile. The Brotherhood of Steel will give the player character a key to the, They will replenish an ammunition crate next to, Lucius will teach the player character the special, The Legion will also provide various items within boxes outside of, Allows the player character to convince the mercenaries in, Allows the player character to convince each camp in, Required along with a Speech of 50 to trade with. Unlike other items in his inventory, pickpocketing the key will never fail as long as the player character is hidden. I need to stop beng vilified with the powder gangers so I can retake the prision. Afterward, players lose reputation for killing a faction member regardless of a successful sneak kill unless that weapon is silenced and the player remains completely hidden. Only chance probably is to use stealthboys to get to Eddie. Fixed: Release in which this issue/RFE has been fixed.The release containing this fix may be available for download as an Early Access Release or a General Availability Release. Other than it being the starting area of the game it's pretty boring imo. Ask questions of Pete about Boomer history and comment positively on each of them (+1 each). New California Republic (formerly)Powder Gangers Fallout: New Vegas. Also finish Lonesome road by nuking NCR and legion. It is possible to pickpocket the key from him to avoid the fee. Basically the same problem I had. Siding with the Powder Gangers in Goodsprings will get you Shunned by the NCR. If loading a save is not an option, there are only 3 quests which let you gain Novac fame in order to get back to . Later down the line you will be making amny choices that end up affecting your reputation with various factions. I do like the lore of the powder gangers a lot more than goodsprings. NCR Correctional Facility Scout Primm and learn of the NCR's plans (+1). With the exception of the White Glove Society, Great Khans and Powder Gangers in Vault 19, all factions will attack the player with a negative reputation. Stealing chems on the table in the warden's office gives the player character infamy with the Powder Gangers, even if they are all dead. All rights reserved. (Really early spoilers, I guess? Eddie dies under any circumstance, which will happen as part of the, The only exception to this is if Eddie dies during the NCR attack on the, Turning in Vault suits as part of the quest, The skill check required to do this can be bypassed by never mentioning that the White Glove Society was behind, Complete Beyond The Beef by either failing to convince, or encouraging, Heck Gunderson's proposed embargo of his meat products for the Strip after he learns that the White Glove Society was behind his. EVE adds energy weapons to Joe Cobb's gang. NCR hit squads will warn the player character to change their reputation with NCR within three days or they will come after them, trying to kill the player character. In both of these cases, the entrance remains locked from the inside, however. I think that may be by design. Valve Corporation. Rebuilding to a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Boone to be recruited as a companion again, despite his possible angered departure beforehand which caused him to leave. Please present your passport. The gangers weren't even on my rep list despite being hated with goodsprings..not neutral not hated not likednothing. Flatter Caesar by asking how to serve "the mighty Caesar" further when talking again after dealing with the, Teach Decanus Severus at Cottonwood Cove how to make, Defeat the two slaves in the arena during. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, communism is a preferable alternative to communism. Camp Forlorn Hope morale was rebuilt slightly before agreeing to stage the attack on Nelson with Major Polatli (+2). I mean disappeared too. Great for those who prefer to sling their dynamite than getting up close and personal. One such gap in the fence is situated between the lookout tower and the visitors center and the other is located almost directly opposite it, along the eastern fence. The actual quest to take back the NCRCF is buried within the quests to help the Powder Gangers. Yeah, but given the circumstances the NCR are serving as the marshals, troopers and governor therefore they would have the power to pardon and deputize at their own discretion. You can have minimum rep and some factions wont attack you provided you did a couple of good things for them (off the top of my head I think you can even be vilified and provided you didnt shoot anyone they'll just be really rude to you.). By far the easiest way is to load an earlier save. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. They're hostile to the player for the most part, so they're just asking to get popped. Vilified by Powder Gangers, is this bad? Let or help the NCR wipe out the Great Khans without persuading them to release the hostages first (+4). White Glove Society attire is special, since it masks reputations with six factions; the five mentioned above and the Society. I completed Run Goodsprings Run and it gave me a Shunned reputation with the NCR. The first task is to "take care" of a Powder Ganger named Chavez, who Eddie believes is setting up his own crew without permission. Yet again large over-regulated irresponsible government failing. Fallout: New Vegas. There is also a fridge, a Sunset Sarsaparilla vending machine, and a Nuka-Cola vending machine. Even if the player character is idolized by the Boomers, the doctor will not provide them any medical attention, saying that he needs any supplies left to treat the wounded. Helping them is way better than help good springs. So releasing and turning the non-violent offenders into deputies under Meyers and supervision would have made more sense. The legion definitely has some bug, i always treated them like varmint shooting them whenever i saw them in my first game and they still talked to me and remained calm. A Powder Ganger wearing a guard uniform stands by the door. You see, Joe Cobb is part of a larger chain-gang called "Powder Gangers" and has a smaller gang ready to attack the town of Goodsprings. For more information, please see our All rights reserved. Shunned basically means they don't want anything to do with you, but not more than that. Lie to Heck Gunderson about who took Ted Gunderson when taking him back to Heck (+12). Negative reputation for all towns and factions, For an overview of the game mechanic across titles, see. Reputation is specific to a certain group/location and is measured in both fame and infamy; you'll usually gain infamy if someone notices you committing a crime. The benefits and drawbacks of any given reputation depend on the group itself. This quest is pretty bad designed, I mean if you want to clean out the facility you have to play nice with the gangers first? A workbench can be found near the door along with an owned crate of explosives. Contents 1 Background 2 Interactions with the player character 2.1 Interactions overview 2.2 Other interactions 3 Combat notes 4 Inventory 5 Notable members 6 Bugs 7 Appearances Background I wouldn't bother. Reply. If you need to kill them, do it while hidden. Visitors centerNCR CF administrationCell block ACell block B Where do you find the key for the 2nd floor of the broadcast building at Black Mountain? I've done the Powder Gangers quests, and quite frankly there just isn't any incentive to help them. I killed some. There are very few ways but here a re a couple off the top of my head. Get enough of it and they'll start to attack on sight, but wearing faction-armour will disguise you (just be aware some NPCs can see through it). If you managed to get yourself vilified, you out of luck. -spoilers-. If Veronica had never been interacted with before becoming. Several functions may not work. The New California Republic Correctional Facility (commonly abbreviated to NCR Correctional Facility or NCRCF) and known before the war as the Jean Conservancy,[Non-game 1] was an NCR prison located southeast of Goodsprings that currently acts as the main settlement of the Powder Gangers and a staging point for raiding the local area in 2281. For example, if the player character wears Legion armor and kills an NCR soldier, Infamy will be gained, but will be reset to one's prior reputation upon the removal of the disguise. Joined: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:58 pm. Convince Heck Gunderson against cutting off the food supply to the Strip (+12). and our Warden Nathan EddieSergeant Lee (optional) I reloaded my last save which I made 2 hours ago :(. Understaffed. 1K. You can always try to wear a PG outfit and sneak in that way to the prison and talk to the leader in the Admin building. taking the prison for the NCR or holding the prison for the Powder Gangers. He is a mild-mannered ex-sheriff who will engage in conversation with the player character. The ranges of reputation vary by faction. Why did the NCR think it was a good idea to give convicts dynamite and to send a felon from their jail in California that is known for using explosives to commit crimes to the Mojave jail that was undermanned? This mod only alters a single entry, the Goodsprings Powder Ganger faction, and it only alters one setting of the entry. Behind the scenes The NCR Correctional Facility is based on the real life location of Southern Nevada Correctional Center, an abandoned prison in Jean, Nevada. A positive reputation may yield positive dialogue, discounts from vendors, and even free gifts from wandering citizens. I thought being "shunned" toward a faction would result in them attacking me on site? Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). Blew up the monorail and succeeded in framing a scapegoat to secure Ronald Curtis' cover (+12). If you do it fast enough, normal dialogue will ensue and you can start I Fought The Law. The game is good the story line is good but seriouslythe bugs and there are a LOT are starting to piss me off. - posted in New Vegas Discussion: So I became Shunned to the NCR and expected that the next time I ran into one of them I would immediately be attacked, but to my surprise I wasnt. Additionally, Powder Gangers outside of the NCR Correctional Facility and the Powder Ganger camp south would originally attack them even with a neutral reputation if the player character gets too close to one, but this has been corrected in the latest patch to the game. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Best. Overview Please re-enable javascript to access full functionality. It worked for me. I recently started playing new vegas(my first fallout game) and I had no idea that karma gets you shunned so I just stole most things. All of these will be compatible with this mod. Even if you earn rep they'll permanently hate you and shoot you on sight. That way you keep the bonuses of both, more or less. The Powder Gangers are hostile toward me. The faction reputation can reset at an unpredictable time. and they're playing poker! Cell block A contains two Powder Gangers and a few locked containers of explosives and uniforms. Powder Gangers are not good guys, you get good karma for killing them so why if you are playing a good character are you bothered that they don't like you? How do I get to the Boomers without being blown up? You can actually do all of Eddie's requests without killing anyone, so no karma issues. [Non-game 1][7][Non-game 2]. Accessing the "Squad Readiness Reports Terminal" on the front desk in the. You need to do both quests for them in order to even get a liked reputation and on the way to the prison you can't even kill the ones that attack you or you lose reputation. Reputation will probably have reset from neutral to the proper standing. Normal jumpsuit worn with scavenged clothing and equipment from the unfortunate travelers who came across our dear friends at the correctional facility. -Completed "Booted" by saving the hostages from the Legion. Also, once the reputation of 'Wild Child' is earned, there is no ability to change it at all. Once you're past that point there's very little you can do. The prison has one main entrance, which is guarded by a Powder Ganger named Dawes. However, upon equipping an NCR faction armor/clothing, there is a chance reputation will reset back to neutral again. Camp Forlorn Hope morale was rebuilt decently before agreeing to stage the attack on Nelson with Major Polatli (+4). Each action that gains Fame or Infamy is assigned a set value in the editor, which is added via script: Fame and Infamy (denoted 1 and 0 in the console) are earned by doing helpful or harmful deeds, respectively, to the faction. He helped the gangers take the town and "received rep with the gangers" which promptly disappeared. So I am now more or less around Novac, the NCR has been put to the task of keeping Primm in check and I have unfortunately missed out on going to the NCRCF before handling the Powder Gangers at Goodsprings. Well It ried that and it didn't work, screw it I'm just going to kill them all and see if I get the good ending anyway. [1][2] The Powder Gangers became a scourge on the inhabitants of the region, attacking caravans along Interstate 15 and stealing supplies from settlers and workers. Eddie holds the key to the Average locked room, which contains a substantial stash of ammunition and explosives. The Version table provides details related to the release that this issue/RFE will be addressed. Quests I am Villified, but no matter how many of them I kill they only stay hostile so long as I'm in combat with them. Reputation in Fallout: New Vegas is a measurement of how the different factions in the Mojave Wasteland perceive the player character. Equip the armor of the faction the player character is trying to work with to reset reputation to neutral. NCR Correctional Facility It's true that Powder Gangers are very useless. Khans value strength, determination, and resilience. Wiping out every Powder Ganger in the facility may cause a prospector to appear here and remain indefinitely. Doing Cooke's quests also nets fame, but no rank up. 2 MauiWowieOwie 1 yr. ago You Have Been Warned. I've been able to pickpocket the key from the dude at the front gate of the prison (and enter Hidden) then go talk to the guy who would then go to Primm (forgot name) without having to fight the gang, but I did not shot any of them or fight them at Goodsprings, so default rep with them I guess, and no disguise. Only chance probably is to use stealthboys to get to Eddie. What was your reputation with them at that time? NVCE changes their appearance. Wed May 02, 2012 6:08 pm. Performed surgery successfully by passing a 9, Reporting to Colonel Moore or Mr. House that the Omertas have been dealt with in, Speaking to Caesar after completing either, Caesar dies in any circumstance, except during his operation in. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Unlike other mods that add in new races or genders to the Powder Gangers, this mod comes with fully voiced dialogue for these Femgangers that not only reacts to nearby events occurring, such as a named Ganger dying or Quarry Junction being cleared out or Hidden Valley blowing up, but also sound right at home with a criminal. Killing members of any faction from a [HIDDEN] state will not cause one to gain Infamy as long as the weapon is considered silent and the target dies with one attack, or if one uses Mister Sandman. It is affected by positive and negative deeds that affect the faction in question, such as completing quests or killing members, respectively. You have to be sneaking (crouched) and you have to be hidden (it'll say [HIDDEN] at the top of the screen when you're [HIDDEN],) to avoid gaining negative reputation with whatever faction you're stealing from.